And yet it took Pence 3 1/2 years to denounce the guy for what he is, and he only did it after announcing his run for President, and he still pledged to vote for the guy if he were the nominee. Not exactly a profile in courage!
Pence did his job, the one he took an oath to protect. You don’t get awards for not committing treason. Just saying….:)
Mike Pence enabled Trump through the entire term in office. Being as close to the nonsense as Pence was, he made a choice not to speak out. That choice was party driven or loyalty driven. The party is gone. The loyalty was unearned and therefore undeserved.
Actually, after Pence saw one of the holding areas (with chain-link fence, children crying for their mothers, the thin blankets that look like aluminum foil), he looked grim. When he went home, he told Trump and aides that separating children from parents had to stop; it’s inhumane. Almost immediately, Trump stated publicly that he was stopping the separations because it’s inhumane. There wasn’t much of an outcry about Trump’s separating children from parents. When we saw that strategy by Putin, whose soldiers kidnapped thousands of children from their homes in Ukraine, we were outraged. In both cases, the strategy was meant as a disincentive for parents to argue with authority. It didn’t work in either case. These are atrocities. Trump and Putin and their perpetrators are deplorable. To almost half of our citizens, I say, “You’re being mesmerized by Satan! Snap out of it!”
I didn’t know this chain of events. Thank you for filling in the blanks. Yet the architect of the family separation, Stephen Miller, still advises T💩p.
Stephen Miller is nothing more than a well-known fascist who is still deep inside Donald’s orbit. That should be a warning for everyone. But just like Steve Bannon, the other bigly fascist in Donald’s orbit, they still have bully pulpits to spew their ugly racist venom with no one to cut off their hateful rants. Shame..
That’s funny. Apparently, Malaria is saying the same thing, as stated in an excerpt from her memoir. I wonder who’s telling the truth? Two great actors and conmen/women…:)
I cannot in good conscience, thank him for the ONE act of moral courage and ignore the four years of watching him stare adoringly at that orange Buffoon and enable him to single-handedly destroy the Republican Party. So much so, that they’ve abandoned all loyalty to the American Constitution and have committed to worshipping a person instead. Because they want to stay in power and RULE, not govern. We can debate the grossness of turning ‘Christianity’ into nothing what Jesus preached and I’d be willing to to do so. But we can stick to this one subject at first.
It was smart for him to refuse to leave the building. He probably knew he'd never get back if he left and that they'd have Grassley (who was president pro tempore of the Senate at the time) preside in Pence's absence, giving Trump the result he wanted. Pence saw through it. He had every right to look as angry as he did when they reconvened that night.
Supporting Trumpty Dumpty and still calling yourself an Evangelical Christian is an absolute JOKE. You people are worshipping the anti Christ in Donald Trump. And his pandering to “my beautiful Christians” is ridiculous, disgraceful and insulting to actual Christians. That idiot is no more a Christian than my dog is. Frankly, I don’t understand how ANYONE who supports Trump can claim to be a Christian. You’re just in a cult of hypocrisy. How do you live with yourselves??
We’re in a full agreement. He checked with prominent judges to see if there was possible validity. Knowing that if he did, he would have earned a place in American history as being a fool. republicans seem to have this pompous idea that democrats wouldn’t have fought on the streets if he had. I indeed would have been 1 former republican of millions of democrats. That didn’t happen because of Pence. I do feel gratitude for his good judgment in midst of an angry crowd of ignorant fox fed followers of an incompetent fool. Yeah, indeed. Thanks Pence.
Smith and Co have gone over and over this filing. The actions described were un-Presidential and those of a private citizen and candidate for office. The American people stand with Jack Smith, not with Donald Trump. Based on his recent "rallys" he is near his end. The Trumplicans have only lies and threats. Americans are done with the lies and threats.
I truly hope you are correct. Most of the polling seems to show that at least forty to fifty percent of the American public is still supporting the lies and loving the grand leader.
I was at the Capitol for the Women’s March after Trump was elected and I can’t believe we’re possibly going to be there again. It CANNOT HAPPEN AGAIN!!
I only considered Pence as yet another mindless follower of Trump until that day. He was a hero that day. I have much gratitude for what Pence refused to do then. A Republican with a spine standing up to the dictator wannabe is almost impossible to find.
Thank Judge Michael Luttig for making Pence fully understand that there was no provision to overturn the election in the way being proposed provided in the US Constitution. If Judge Luttig had failed, who knows what hell we would have been in these past 4 years.
I forgot to mention Judge Luttig in my diatribe. He’s definitely to be thanked and I have a feeling he’ll be casting a meaningful vote as are so many others who have recognized the danger Trump poses.
Thank you Jean! I was trying to remember his name!! I remember that story! Plus he talked to another Indiana Republican political friend who told him the same thing.
Good thing it wasn’t JD Vance! Thanks, VP Pence and Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for standing up to trump and his maga minions. I admire your courage-that man is a monster and we really cannot let him win this election. We have way too much to lose!
I don’t see the charming at all. What some people seem to seeing in Vance as charming or style, is a VERY thin veneer. If you look closely, you see the cold, blank eyes, the smirking at inappropriate times and the way he said certain female names (in particular Margaret, after she dared to fact check him). It was creepy it was clear that it was taking effort to try and act like a human. He’s dangerous and it is foolish for anyone to take away from this one debate that he is charming. He is at best awkward, like when he can’t quite make small talk, figure out how to order donuts or shaking a woman’s fist instead of completing the fist bump she was going for. At worst he is a highly dangerous compulsive liar. But what he NEVER is, is charming!
Agree 💯! And, I was just sick reading a post on Substack titled American women are falling in love with JD Vance. Omg! Someone actually wrote he’s a blue eyed conservative fever dream! 😳
They usually are charming. Which makes them even more dangerous. So, settle down , you Republican women, bc you’re too dumb to know that you are embarrassing yourself.
Just finished listening to Liz Cheney’s introductory speech at Kamala’s rally in Wisconsin a minute ago. It’s people like Liz and you, Adam that are carrying the tatters of the Republican Party. It took Pence’s son and Dan Quayle, at least, to help him realize what he would be doing if he didn’t do his job. The man had to ask for guidance because he had lost the ability to think about his oath to our country! So he finally did one of the two things a Vice President is authorized to do. The threat was gone. It was late. The human and physical damage to the Capital was incalculable but it was a near thing that he did. All that and he STILL says he won’t vote for either candidate but will throw his voice away on a write-in.
I guess you could still say I’m still sitting on the fence when it comes to thanking him with any enthusiasm.
So. I fired off a message earlier before thinking it through completely. What I should have said was:
“Thank you Adam Kinzinger for your moral fortitude. Thank you for doing what was right knowing full well the great repercussion that would follow. Thank you for being our Man in The Arena.
Thank you for sharing your insight with Friday videos. Most of us feel we have had a backstage pass to the working of our government.
Thanks for your honesty. Thanks for modeling what a leader is to our children, our grandchildren, as well as to your own son. He will always be proud that he came from such strength.
“Thanks so much for this forum. It has helped me keep my head above water when I feel we are drowning in a tsunami of gloom and doom.
He can add to his legacy by urging voters to NOT vote for Donald Trump in November, even if he doesn't urge them to vote for VP Harris. That is what he should do at this point.
I agree Ian but Trumps base is too far down that rabbit hole for it to make a difference. They are a cult and we're going to have to deal with it. Rough road ahead. Voting blue is a start.
Thank you, Mike Pence, for doing due diligence to determine the limits of lawful behavior under The Constitution and refusing to obey Trump’s unconstitutional request!!
Trump abused Pence throughout his pretzelduncy. Here's where Pence finally stood up for himself and therefore saved us from another four years if demented trumpian havoc.
Pretzelduncy? ROFL!!! That's great. And fitting. Heck, since day one of Trump occupying the WH, I've absolutely refused to call him president. He cheated to get the win. And the way he continues to treat the military and veterans, the Booniac can go throw himself into a flaming volcano.
OMG! I don’t know if I love that new word or am ticked at Olivia for nearly killing me 😉😉🤣Just read it at the same time as I took a decent size drink of Diet Coke. I think I almost drowned. Love my DC, but it is a decidedly horrible sensation when you take a drink of it, break out laughing and then inhale it. But still, pretzelduncy!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am no fan of Mike Pence. But if someone even weaker or more power hungry had been in that position, it is terrifying to think of the danger and turmoil it would have placed the country in at the beginning of the Biden administration. Enter JD Vance stage far right. He has already said he would not stand up like Mike Pence did, and you can take that to the bank. America better mobilize and snuff out this threat at the ballot box. It will literally be our last opportunity.
I do think that Pence courageously defied tfg on Jan 6 in counting the votes. But I cannot give him a pass on how silent he was regarding tfg after they left office. He had the nation’s attention in those days immediately after he had to run for his life (as did everyone in the Capitol building that day) and wasted the opportunity to speak out about what he knew (and knows) about the orange man-baby. He kept silent because he knew he would run for the Republican nominee and wanted to protect his maga base if he was going to have any chance of being successful. Shameful.
a quote from Mike Pence after stating that he would not support Trump in 2024: "I believe anyone that puts themselves over the Constitution should never be president of the United States and anyone who asks someone else to put them over the Constitution should never be president of the United States again"
He didn’t say this until much later I believe after he suspended his campaign. Imagine the impact those words would have made if he said that shortly after January 6th? He kept silent far too long.
"He didn’t say this until much later" Incorrect. He made statements when launching his campaign (so obviously wasn't concerned about the maga base) From June 7, 2023 BBC headline: "Former US vice-president Mike Pence has offered his most forceful repudiation of Donald Trump to date during a speech launching his 2024 campaign. The Republican accused Mr Trump of being unfaithful to the US constitution and of abandoning conservative values."
I stand corrected. Thank you for the correction. My point is that he kept his silence immediately after January 6 when he could have impacted the nation when the spotlight was on him. He could have impacted so many more if he had spoken up sooner.
It is appalling that MAGA Republicans and Trumpers who are low-information voters (and corrupt people who are backing Trump) are pushing truth aside because they were socialized to think Republican good, Democrat bad. We need to vote out the man they falsely think is their champion. Most leaders of the Republican party know the truth but are protecting their ability to remain in their jobs. We need to vote them out.
Of all the things he’s said in connection with January 6, or anything else for that matter, “You’re too honest” is the quote we should hang around Trump’s neck forever more. His disdain for honesty defines his character, his approach to business, politics, truth, law, and decency.
I know that this question cannot be answered, but I pray that those of you Rs who have stood against this mini-Mussolini; do you have a defense plan if he should win? Do Ds?
Plan B will be led by the Blue states' attorneys general.
They would prefer to work on solving countless other problems, but are prepared to defend human rights again the psychotic one if necessary, as they did previously.
Good point. I’ve not really heard a plan B from the democrats. I know there was a bipartisan beefing up in Congress regarding a more narrow and specific wording of what the VP’s duties are in counting the electoral votes. At least it’s something.
I beg to differ... While Trump has managed to manipulate the Supreme Court into granting him a degree of immunity and also delayed justice in the courts, there is still one guardrail that will prevent him from escaping justice -the American Electorate.
WE are the last defenders of democracy! It is incumbent on EVERY VOTER to vote in November. It is incumbent on EVERY VOTER to vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz! The spirits of our founding fathers are watching! Whether or not we agree with Democrats on policy is secondary to the preservation of our mutually enjoyed blessing of democracy!
Only after we say "Hell NO" to those who would dictate to us how we live our lives can we return to discussing policy differences!
May God help us to preserve our democracy this November!
Well, I'm not a fan of Mike Pence but I would personally thank him for standing up to Trump. Thank you Adam and your fellow J6 House Committee members for the hard work in setting all of this in motion. As a Democrat, I admire all of the Republicans who are bravely standing up to Trump/MAGA and endorsing VP Harris.
That would be the only time I would thank Mike Pence for anything.
Suggest thanking Mike Pence for everything - imagine the carnage had he followed Trump's wishes.
And yet it took Pence 3 1/2 years to denounce the guy for what he is, and he only did it after announcing his run for President, and he still pledged to vote for the guy if he were the nominee. Not exactly a profile in courage!
Pence did his job, the one he took an oath to protect. You don’t get awards for not committing treason. Just saying….:)
Mike Pence enabled Trump through the entire term in office. Being as close to the nonsense as Pence was, he made a choice not to speak out. That choice was party driven or loyalty driven. The party is gone. The loyalty was unearned and therefore undeserved.
He watches kids get separated from their parents and does nothing about it. He calls himself a good Christian. Hell’s too good for this hypocrite.
Actually, after Pence saw one of the holding areas (with chain-link fence, children crying for their mothers, the thin blankets that look like aluminum foil), he looked grim. When he went home, he told Trump and aides that separating children from parents had to stop; it’s inhumane. Almost immediately, Trump stated publicly that he was stopping the separations because it’s inhumane. There wasn’t much of an outcry about Trump’s separating children from parents. When we saw that strategy by Putin, whose soldiers kidnapped thousands of children from their homes in Ukraine, we were outraged. In both cases, the strategy was meant as a disincentive for parents to argue with authority. It didn’t work in either case. These are atrocities. Trump and Putin and their perpetrators are deplorable. To almost half of our citizens, I say, “You’re being mesmerized by Satan! Snap out of it!”
I didn’t know this chain of events. Thank you for filling in the blanks. Yet the architect of the family separation, Stephen Miller, still advises T💩p.
Stephen Miller is nothing more than a well-known fascist who is still deep inside Donald’s orbit. That should be a warning for everyone. But just like Steve Bannon, the other bigly fascist in Donald’s orbit, they still have bully pulpits to spew their ugly racist venom with no one to cut off their hateful rants. Shame..
Stephen Miller is pure evil. You can see it in his eyes.
That’s funny. Apparently, Malaria is saying the same thing, as stated in an excerpt from her memoir. I wonder who’s telling the truth? Two great actors and conmen/women…:)
Exactly what is Malaria saying in her memoir? I wouldn’t buy it to find out
She said she went to the detention facilities at the border and witnessed the pain it was causing a
D told Donnie Douche that it needs to end, and apparently it ended. The same story Pence is apparently peddling…:)
As long as it stopped, for whatever reason
I cannot in good conscience, thank him for the ONE act of moral courage and ignore the four years of watching him stare adoringly at that orange Buffoon and enable him to single-handedly destroy the Republican Party. So much so, that they’ve abandoned all loyalty to the American Constitution and have committed to worshipping a person instead. Because they want to stay in power and RULE, not govern. We can debate the grossness of turning ‘Christianity’ into nothing what Jesus preached and I’d be willing to to do so. But we can stick to this one subject at first.
Courage is to be commended- he refused the Secret Svc trying to push him into a car.Good-on ‘em
It was smart for him to refuse to leave the building. He probably knew he'd never get back if he left and that they'd have Grassley (who was president pro tempore of the Senate at the time) preside in Pence's absence, giving Trump the result he wanted. Pence saw through it. He had every right to look as angry as he did when they reconvened that night.
Supporting Trumpty Dumpty and still calling yourself an Evangelical Christian is an absolute JOKE. You people are worshipping the anti Christ in Donald Trump. And his pandering to “my beautiful Christians” is ridiculous, disgraceful and insulting to actual Christians. That idiot is no more a Christian than my dog is. Frankly, I don’t understand how ANYONE who supports Trump can claim to be a Christian. You’re just in a cult of hypocrisy. How do you live with yourselves??
Now consider a REAL Christian president:
The Honorable Jimmy Carter !
We’re in a full agreement. He checked with prominent judges to see if there was possible validity. Knowing that if he did, he would have earned a place in American history as being a fool. republicans seem to have this pompous idea that democrats wouldn’t have fought on the streets if he had. I indeed would have been 1 former republican of millions of democrats. That didn’t happen because of Pence. I do feel gratitude for his good judgment in midst of an angry crowd of ignorant fox fed followers of an incompetent fool. Yeah, indeed. Thanks Pence.
Smith and Co have gone over and over this filing. The actions described were un-Presidential and those of a private citizen and candidate for office. The American people stand with Jack Smith, not with Donald Trump. Based on his recent "rallys" he is near his end. The Trumplicans have only lies and threats. Americans are done with the lies and threats.
I truly hope you are correct. Most of the polling seems to show that at least forty to fifty percent of the American public is still supporting the lies and loving the grand leader.
I was at the Capitol for the Women’s March after Trump was elected and I can’t believe we’re possibly going to be there again. It CANNOT HAPPEN AGAIN!!
I so hope that you are correct! Vote Harris/Walz
I only considered Pence as yet another mindless follower of Trump until that day. He was a hero that day. I have much gratitude for what Pence refused to do then. A Republican with a spine standing up to the dictator wannabe is almost impossible to find.
Makes you wonder would that mob have really hurt him? Certainly showed how callous Trump really is.
Thank Judge Michael Luttig for making Pence fully understand that there was no provision to overturn the election in the way being proposed provided in the US Constitution. If Judge Luttig had failed, who knows what hell we would have been in these past 4 years.
Judge Luttig is a tower of courage and integrity in today's world.
I forgot to mention Judge Luttig in my diatribe. He’s definitely to be thanked and I have a feeling he’ll be casting a meaningful vote as are so many others who have recognized the danger Trump poses.
Indeed. Yes indeed! Judge Luttig is the key to why Pence realized he would have looked like a fool in American history. Yep!
Thank you Jean! I was trying to remember his name!! I remember that story! Plus he talked to another Indiana Republican political friend who told him the same thing.
Thank God for them!! 🙏
Good thing it wasn’t JD Vance! Thanks, VP Pence and Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for standing up to trump and his maga minions. I admire your courage-that man is a monster and we really cannot let him win this election. We have way too much to lose!
After seeing the VP debate I saw With my own eyes how dangerous JD vance truly is. He is a charming sociopath.
I don’t see the charming at all. What some people seem to seeing in Vance as charming or style, is a VERY thin veneer. If you look closely, you see the cold, blank eyes, the smirking at inappropriate times and the way he said certain female names (in particular Margaret, after she dared to fact check him). It was creepy it was clear that it was taking effort to try and act like a human. He’s dangerous and it is foolish for anyone to take away from this one debate that he is charming. He is at best awkward, like when he can’t quite make small talk, figure out how to order donuts or shaking a woman’s fist instead of completing the fist bump she was going for. At worst he is a highly dangerous compulsive liar. But what he NEVER is, is charming!
lol you said all of that right. And the eyeliner is pathetic.
Agree 💯! And, I was just sick reading a post on Substack titled American women are falling in love with JD Vance. Omg! Someone actually wrote he’s a blue eyed conservative fever dream! 😳
Ewwwwwww...
Blue contacts in those blue eyes!! Betcha!! And the nervous blink and ominous eyebrows. Feverish nightmare!!!
The eye liner is so pathetic.
Maybelline, Why can’t you be true….
They usually are charming. Which makes them even more dangerous. So, settle down , you Republican women, bc you’re too dumb to know that you are embarrassing yourself.
You hit the nail on the head with that statement. He’s got stars in his eyes, to be sure.
🎯
Just finished listening to Liz Cheney’s introductory speech at Kamala’s rally in Wisconsin a minute ago. It’s people like Liz and you, Adam that are carrying the tatters of the Republican Party. It took Pence’s son and Dan Quayle, at least, to help him realize what he would be doing if he didn’t do his job. The man had to ask for guidance because he had lost the ability to think about his oath to our country! So he finally did one of the two things a Vice President is authorized to do. The threat was gone. It was late. The human and physical damage to the Capital was incalculable but it was a near thing that he did. All that and he STILL says he won’t vote for either candidate but will throw his voice away on a write-in.
I guess you could still say I’m still sitting on the fence when it comes to thanking him with any enthusiasm.
I saw Cheney's speech today too! It was great and perfect timing!
Not to mention that you all gave up your careers basically. Why are there not more of you?? Step up Mitt Romney et al!!!
Yeah, why ISN’T Romney endorsing Kamala?
So. I fired off a message earlier before thinking it through completely. What I should have said was:
“Thank you Adam Kinzinger for your moral fortitude. Thank you for doing what was right knowing full well the great repercussion that would follow. Thank you for being our Man in The Arena.
Thank you for sharing your insight with Friday videos. Most of us feel we have had a backstage pass to the working of our government.
Thanks for your honesty. Thanks for modeling what a leader is to our children, our grandchildren, as well as to your own son. He will always be proud that he came from such strength.
“Thanks so much for this forum. It has helped me keep my head above water when I feel we are drowning in a tsunami of gloom and doom.
Thank you, Adam Kinzinger.
Amen amen and again I say amen!!
Yes, yes, yes. Integrity and honest concern for the country. Adam and Liz, we honor and respect you immensely.
I second every single word of that! We need good men of character like you on both sides of the aisle. Thank you for putting this country first, sir.
DITTO!
I was proud of him that day! Thank you, Mike Pence!
He can add to his legacy by urging voters to NOT vote for Donald Trump in November, even if he doesn't urge them to vote for VP Harris. That is what he should do at this point.
I agree Ian but Trumps base is too far down that rabbit hole for it to make a difference. They are a cult and we're going to have to deal with it. Rough road ahead. Voting blue is a start.
Well said. Defeating Trump is just the beginning.
Thank you, Mike Pence, for doing due diligence to determine the limits of lawful behavior under The Constitution and refusing to obey Trump’s unconstitutional request!!
Trump abused Pence throughout his pretzelduncy. Here's where Pence finally stood up for himself and therefore saved us from another four years if demented trumpian havoc.
Pretzelduncy? ROFL!!! That's great. And fitting. Heck, since day one of Trump occupying the WH, I've absolutely refused to call him president. He cheated to get the win. And the way he continues to treat the military and veterans, the Booniac can go throw himself into a flaming volcano.
OMG! I don’t know if I love that new word or am ticked at Olivia for nearly killing me 😉😉🤣Just read it at the same time as I took a decent size drink of Diet Coke. I think I almost drowned. Love my DC, but it is a decidedly horrible sensation when you take a drink of it, break out laughing and then inhale it. But still, pretzelduncy!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m with you Joelle.
And yet, here we are again, on the brink of chaos once more!
I am no fan of Mike Pence. But if someone even weaker or more power hungry had been in that position, it is terrifying to think of the danger and turmoil it would have placed the country in at the beginning of the Biden administration. Enter JD Vance stage far right. He has already said he would not stand up like Mike Pence did, and you can take that to the bank. America better mobilize and snuff out this threat at the ballot box. It will literally be our last opportunity.
I do think that Pence courageously defied tfg on Jan 6 in counting the votes. But I cannot give him a pass on how silent he was regarding tfg after they left office. He had the nation’s attention in those days immediately after he had to run for his life (as did everyone in the Capitol building that day) and wasted the opportunity to speak out about what he knew (and knows) about the orange man-baby. He kept silent because he knew he would run for the Republican nominee and wanted to protect his maga base if he was going to have any chance of being successful. Shameful.
a quote from Mike Pence after stating that he would not support Trump in 2024: "I believe anyone that puts themselves over the Constitution should never be president of the United States and anyone who asks someone else to put them over the Constitution should never be president of the United States again"
He didn’t say this until much later I believe after he suspended his campaign. Imagine the impact those words would have made if he said that shortly after January 6th? He kept silent far too long.
"He didn’t say this until much later" Incorrect. He made statements when launching his campaign (so obviously wasn't concerned about the maga base) From June 7, 2023 BBC headline: "Former US vice-president Mike Pence has offered his most forceful repudiation of Donald Trump to date during a speech launching his 2024 campaign. The Republican accused Mr Trump of being unfaithful to the US constitution and of abandoning conservative values."
I stand corrected. Thank you for the correction. My point is that he kept his silence immediately after January 6 when he could have impacted the nation when the spotlight was on him. He could have impacted so many more if he had spoken up sooner.
I do agree that Pence, along with all GOP should have made Trump a pariah starting later afternoon of Jan 6. Instead we are where we are.
It’s just astonishing that the Republicans don’t seem to have any problem with this mess at
all.
Apparently, an entire boatload of people have abandoned their “conservative values “, whatever that means now.
It is appalling that MAGA Republicans and Trumpers who are low-information voters (and corrupt people who are backing Trump) are pushing truth aside because they were socialized to think Republican good, Democrat bad. We need to vote out the man they falsely think is their champion. Most leaders of the Republican party know the truth but are protecting their ability to remain in their jobs. We need to vote them out.
Joan I have to agree with you here at the same time Iam grateful that he upheld his oath that day
Amen Joan!
Of all the things he’s said in connection with January 6, or anything else for that matter, “You’re too honest” is the quote we should hang around Trump’s neck forever more. His disdain for honesty defines his character, his approach to business, politics, truth, law, and decency.
That single statement speaks volumes about Trump's lack of character and disqualifies him for ANY elected office.
In our world, yes it disqualifies him. In MAGA world the only virtue is to win . Honesty and integrity do not need to be a requisite.
So true.
I know that this question cannot be answered, but I pray that those of you Rs who have stood against this mini-Mussolini; do you have a defense plan if he should win? Do Ds?
Plan B will be led by the Blue states' attorneys general.
They would prefer to work on solving countless other problems, but are prepared to defend human rights again the psychotic one if necessary, as they did previously.
We owe them much gratitude.
Good point. I’ve not really heard a plan B from the democrats. I know there was a bipartisan beefing up in Congress regarding a more narrow and specific wording of what the VP’s duties are in counting the electoral votes. At least it’s something.
Thank you for asking this question
Thank you, Mike Pence! Unfortunately, the legal process has gone on for too long and the former president may never have to pay for his actions.
I beg to differ... While Trump has managed to manipulate the Supreme Court into granting him a degree of immunity and also delayed justice in the courts, there is still one guardrail that will prevent him from escaping justice -the American Electorate.
WE are the last defenders of democracy! It is incumbent on EVERY VOTER to vote in November. It is incumbent on EVERY VOTER to vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz! The spirits of our founding fathers are watching! Whether or not we agree with Democrats on policy is secondary to the preservation of our mutually enjoyed blessing of democracy!
Only after we say "Hell NO" to those who would dictate to us how we live our lives can we return to discussing policy differences!
May God help us to preserve our democracy this November!
Well, I'm not a fan of Mike Pence but I would personally thank him for standing up to Trump. Thank you Adam and your fellow J6 House Committee members for the hard work in setting all of this in motion. As a Democrat, I admire all of the Republicans who are bravely standing up to Trump/MAGA and endorsing VP Harris.