One film in the face of the lies being spewed from an entire Network (Fox), (who also has the access to the NFL franchise for football broadcasts to the country) will not stop of slow the hate. Eliminating the Fairness Doctrine was a mistake. It set up this ability by the extremely powerful to present their alternative reality to vulnerable people and keep pumping the lies on an hourly basis. The courts will help when they cut off the head of the snake. The courts will help when and if that snake is treated like other criminals, including the ones he is responsible for sending to prison. Perhaps as more co-conspiracists flip there might be some slowing but as long as the various forms of media carry his words and an entire political party cravenly, pathetically bows to his wishes - there will be no peace. Donald Trump has been allowed to stack the deck with his threats and whatever powers he has supporting him. Every Republican serving took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. But they are violating their oaths nominating people for Speaker who reject the results of a legitimate election. This mess will not stop until some Republicans presently serving have the courage to put their country over their self interest. Yes - security will be an issue temporarily- but they allowed this mess to get this far - clean it up.
I, for one, have zero desire to listen to these fools. Ignorance is one thing, we're all ignorant of something but these individuals were WILLFULLY ignorant, which is entirely different.
These people decided to ignore all warnings that Trump was/is a life-long conman. That includes members of his own party, using that term.
No sympathy from me. I'm saving it for people that deserve it.
Thanks for this nuanced analysis of the discussions Ms. Pelosi elicited. I was troubled by their naïveté. Their explanations seem self-serving, even cagey, especially when placed next to the video of the actual events. On Bill Maher’s Real Time, Ms. Pelosi said that one of the participants told her that he saw video of the riot for the first time in her documentary. She blames the siloing effects of social media. I don’t know. It’s hard for me to understand that anyone who participated in those events, and was convicted of crimes, would have avoided examining evidence of what happened.
It's not like they didn't have years to do a little research and/or listen to officials from Trump's own party calling him a conman (and many other things).
The insurrectionists have mortal victims, and Trump encouraged rebel attitudes and activities.
Here is their clue:
If I disagree with a policy, I write a protest letter. It has never occurred to me to storm an office to protest using violence.
Here is their riddle:
How did sharing one brain among ALL of them feel on January 6? And the day after? And when the charges came?
I don't care who's sorry in 2023. The mortal victims are still dead.
And at the end of my damning day, NOBODY got hurt. Maybe hurt feelings, but I don't have blood on my hands. Neither did Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney. Neither did a lot of people who just didn't feel that storming the capitol was the most prudent course of action to make a statement of dissatisfaction.
Meaningful, to the offender, consequences for bad actions are the kryptonite for untethered sociopathic behavior ... no matter the cause or motivation. And … I might add those consequences certainly shd be legal when those bars are crossed but never underestimate the power of societal, social &interpersonal consequences … why do we think ppl hate “cancel culture” so much? Sincere apologies &restitution are hard for many; it’s an acquired skill.
Very nice post. Please let me ask whether you have any views on the “Fairness Doctrine” which, as I understand, was an FCC regulation that prevented news outlets from spiraling into the manipulative force that several have become today, until it was repealed in 1987.
Thank you for your posts and updates. I really appreciate your quick video insights on developments in Congress and politics generally. Happy to subscribe!
I wonder how many Trumpers watch HBO MAX? I have seen a lot of "man on the street" interview at Trump rallies and NOT ONE of his cult have ever watched anything against him. Watch any Jan. 6 hearings? Seriously? To them it's al lies and propaganda against the "dear leader.". I would love to see it, don't get HBOMAX and not paying for it.
As for the MAGAhats who couldn't wrap their minds around the notion that Joe Biden won the election on the merits, and then they went off to attack the Capitol on January 6 to relieve the terminal erection that Donald Trump had given them, my preferred solution would be a public flogging, and that a jail term long enough to give each of them a foot long gray beard. These doofuses have been around forever, but never have they been allowed to be in charge before. Typically we see them as some sort of service personnel shuffling paperwork, pulling and replacing warehouse stock, or if they are lucky and trainable, they get to work for PG&E as linesmen, electricians, heavy equipment operators, and the guys who flagged traffic at construction site intersections. Over the years, many of these men have been my friends, and I valued their association so long as the conversation stuck to hobbies or other inconsequentials; and I was privileged to represent a number of them when they were employed by the Postal Service and I serve as their legal counsel fighting dismissals and other forms of unjust discipline. It's not that I saw that my life is different from theirs; and as a teenager my job prospects were no better than theirs. But I, along with the majority of my high school class, most of us in families who were only moderately affluent, were willing to put aside the prospect of early emancipation from the strictures of our respective households, and then focus on jobs, girls, trucks, pool parties and tailgates. Most of us who went to college did better; and probably about two thirds of us graduated with our respective bachelors degrees. I was supremely fortunate to attend one of California's newest law schools in Davis, from which I graduated in three years. Following that came fifteen years of public service as a lawyer in California state government and the federal government. I also broadened my legal education by attending a pricey University Master of Laws program which I pursued because I know that even a good legal education was insufficient to be able to competently advise future clients as to their personal and professional legal matters.
I enjoyed your post. I grew up in a blue-collar area of Philadelphia (dad was a fireman). I was fortunate to end up in a financial services career but without a college degree. I realized, rather quickly, I had better get my butt to college and ended up getting my B.A. at night/online.
The people I grew up with, and still must spend time with (due to family commitments), are the Jan 6th types. Most stopped growing intellectually a long time ago and seem to be fine with it. The problem with that, for the country, is we end up with people that fall for a pretend-patriot, clown like Trump. These people lack any historical knowledge about how fragile our democracy is and would destroy it due to an allegiance to a single person. History has shown that this doesn't end well.
Michael Dantonio, I have watched the interviews over the years of your trump insights. I so admire you and respect your opinions. Anxious to read your next book with Adam!
As a psychology major, in school and life😊, I'm hoping you will also write about these same film participants. Would love to know how they turned out after their JUST punishments .
I really like the tag line of "cops and courts..." (speaking as someone whose nephew is an upstanding and well-respected police officer). And I give Ms. Pelosi much credit for speaking to the insurrectionists and directing this film. Having said that, it might be something very difficult for me to watch. When I personally make a mistake and have regrets, it is usually something like "Oh no -- I accidentally under-tipped the waiter who gave me great service at this restaurant", or "It's my fault I'm late for my appointment -- I forgot to put gas in my car!". It is one thing to have regrets for mistakes that are understandable... and human. Maybe it is just me, but I when I look at the insurrectionists, I see nothing more than weakness, dishonor, and disgrace. And deception as well -- because they were deceiving themselves that they were strong.... when in fact, they were pathetic losers.
One film in the face of the lies being spewed from an entire Network (Fox), (who also has the access to the NFL franchise for football broadcasts to the country) will not stop of slow the hate. Eliminating the Fairness Doctrine was a mistake. It set up this ability by the extremely powerful to present their alternative reality to vulnerable people and keep pumping the lies on an hourly basis. The courts will help when they cut off the head of the snake. The courts will help when and if that snake is treated like other criminals, including the ones he is responsible for sending to prison. Perhaps as more co-conspiracists flip there might be some slowing but as long as the various forms of media carry his words and an entire political party cravenly, pathetically bows to his wishes - there will be no peace. Donald Trump has been allowed to stack the deck with his threats and whatever powers he has supporting him. Every Republican serving took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. But they are violating their oaths nominating people for Speaker who reject the results of a legitimate election. This mess will not stop until some Republicans presently serving have the courage to put their country over their self interest. Yes - security will be an issue temporarily- but they allowed this mess to get this far - clean it up.
Every Republican member of the House voted for Mike Johnson, leading Trump supporter and election denier, to be Speaker. They are all complicit now.
I, for one, have zero desire to listen to these fools. Ignorance is one thing, we're all ignorant of something but these individuals were WILLFULLY ignorant, which is entirely different.
These people decided to ignore all warnings that Trump was/is a life-long conman. That includes members of his own party, using that term.
No sympathy from me. I'm saving it for people that deserve it.
Thanks for this nuanced analysis of the discussions Ms. Pelosi elicited. I was troubled by their naïveté. Their explanations seem self-serving, even cagey, especially when placed next to the video of the actual events. On Bill Maher’s Real Time, Ms. Pelosi said that one of the participants told her that he saw video of the riot for the first time in her documentary. She blames the siloing effects of social media. I don’t know. It’s hard for me to understand that anyone who participated in those events, and was convicted of crimes, would have avoided examining evidence of what happened.
Convenient naïveté.
It's not like they didn't have years to do a little research and/or listen to officials from Trump's own party calling him a conman (and many other things).
Well written.
I damn the insurrectionists one and all.
I damn former President Trump.
The insurrectionists have mortal victims, and Trump encouraged rebel attitudes and activities.
Here is their clue:
If I disagree with a policy, I write a protest letter. It has never occurred to me to storm an office to protest using violence.
Here is their riddle:
How did sharing one brain among ALL of them feel on January 6? And the day after? And when the charges came?
I don't care who's sorry in 2023. The mortal victims are still dead.
And at the end of my damning day, NOBODY got hurt. Maybe hurt feelings, but I don't have blood on my hands. Neither did Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney. Neither did a lot of people who just didn't feel that storming the capitol was the most prudent course of action to make a statement of dissatisfaction.
May MAGA be feminized.
Meaningful, to the offender, consequences for bad actions are the kryptonite for untethered sociopathic behavior ... no matter the cause or motivation. And … I might add those consequences certainly shd be legal when those bars are crossed but never underestimate the power of societal, social &interpersonal consequences … why do we think ppl hate “cancel culture” so much? Sincere apologies &restitution are hard for many; it’s an acquired skill.
Very nice post. Please let me ask whether you have any views on the “Fairness Doctrine” which, as I understand, was an FCC regulation that prevented news outlets from spiraling into the manipulative force that several have become today, until it was repealed in 1987.
Thank you for your posts and updates. I really appreciate your quick video insights on developments in Congress and politics generally. Happy to subscribe!
Sounds like a very interesting film. Is it streaming?
Yes. HBO Max.
I wonder how many Trumpers watch HBO MAX? I have seen a lot of "man on the street" interview at Trump rallies and NOT ONE of his cult have ever watched anything against him. Watch any Jan. 6 hearings? Seriously? To them it's al lies and propaganda against the "dear leader.". I would love to see it, don't get HBOMAX and not paying for it.
Willful ignorance is a requirement to be a Trumper, so they won't watch it. If they did, as you said, anything negative gets rejected anyhow.
As for the MAGAhats who couldn't wrap their minds around the notion that Joe Biden won the election on the merits, and then they went off to attack the Capitol on January 6 to relieve the terminal erection that Donald Trump had given them, my preferred solution would be a public flogging, and that a jail term long enough to give each of them a foot long gray beard. These doofuses have been around forever, but never have they been allowed to be in charge before. Typically we see them as some sort of service personnel shuffling paperwork, pulling and replacing warehouse stock, or if they are lucky and trainable, they get to work for PG&E as linesmen, electricians, heavy equipment operators, and the guys who flagged traffic at construction site intersections. Over the years, many of these men have been my friends, and I valued their association so long as the conversation stuck to hobbies or other inconsequentials; and I was privileged to represent a number of them when they were employed by the Postal Service and I serve as their legal counsel fighting dismissals and other forms of unjust discipline. It's not that I saw that my life is different from theirs; and as a teenager my job prospects were no better than theirs. But I, along with the majority of my high school class, most of us in families who were only moderately affluent, were willing to put aside the prospect of early emancipation from the strictures of our respective households, and then focus on jobs, girls, trucks, pool parties and tailgates. Most of us who went to college did better; and probably about two thirds of us graduated with our respective bachelors degrees. I was supremely fortunate to attend one of California's newest law schools in Davis, from which I graduated in three years. Following that came fifteen years of public service as a lawyer in California state government and the federal government. I also broadened my legal education by attending a pricey University Master of Laws program which I pursued because I know that even a good legal education was insufficient to be able to competently advise future clients as to their personal and professional legal matters.
I enjoyed your post. I grew up in a blue-collar area of Philadelphia (dad was a fireman). I was fortunate to end up in a financial services career but without a college degree. I realized, rather quickly, I had better get my butt to college and ended up getting my B.A. at night/online.
The people I grew up with, and still must spend time with (due to family commitments), are the Jan 6th types. Most stopped growing intellectually a long time ago and seem to be fine with it. The problem with that, for the country, is we end up with people that fall for a pretend-patriot, clown like Trump. These people lack any historical knowledge about how fragile our democracy is and would destroy it due to an allegiance to a single person. History has shown that this doesn't end well.
Michael Dantonio, I have watched the interviews over the years of your trump insights. I so admire you and respect your opinions. Anxious to read your next book with Adam!
As a psychology major, in school and life😊, I'm hoping you will also write about these same film participants. Would love to know how they turned out after their JUST punishments .
What are your thoughts on Mike Johnson?
I really like the tag line of "cops and courts..." (speaking as someone whose nephew is an upstanding and well-respected police officer). And I give Ms. Pelosi much credit for speaking to the insurrectionists and directing this film. Having said that, it might be something very difficult for me to watch. When I personally make a mistake and have regrets, it is usually something like "Oh no -- I accidentally under-tipped the waiter who gave me great service at this restaurant", or "It's my fault I'm late for my appointment -- I forgot to put gas in my car!". It is one thing to have regrets for mistakes that are understandable... and human. Maybe it is just me, but I when I look at the insurrectionists, I see nothing more than weakness, dishonor, and disgrace. And deception as well -- because they were deceiving themselves that they were strong.... when in fact, they were pathetic losers.