Adam, I’m disappointed that you are projecting a Trump win as a foregone conclusion. Democracy and freedom is the cornerstone of our country and we cannot roll over to a fascist authoritarian regime without a fight. You speak of 2028 elections with a fight between Vance and Haley. I think that’s optimistic. How do we know that we will ever have a free and fair election ever again? How do we know that Trump won’t decide to tear up the constitution, because frankly it doesn’t really work for him (too many rules that constrain him) and declare that he’ll run for a third term? King Trump. He’ll have a Supreme Court in his back pocket and justice system to do his dirty work. 2028 elections? The only way to ensure a continuation of America is to ensure a Biden win. Only Biden can provide a bridge to a continuation of our democracy and then, only then, can we have constructive political dialogue on policies and helping Americans. We CANNOT lay over and think this election is over! We can’t!!
I'm a Democrat and I'm getting a little tired of listening to how Biden is the only one who can save democracy. To fight, you need energy and conviction. You need a leader who inspires. Biden inspires less than 50% of Democrats and around 35% of the country. Hardly a ringing endorsement.
It's time for a new candidate! The faster we get a more vibrant candidate (Kamala being obvious) the better we all will be. It's time for Democrats to shake things up and fight ourselves if we really think it's important!
Debra, personally I don’t care who the democratic candidate is as long as that person will defeat Trump. Whatever political issues that person stands for is secondary to making sure Trump loses. I would vote for a dead raccoon lying in the middle of the road having been run over a dozen times before voting for Trump. I’m not kidding. Even then that dead raccoon would be a better choice than Trump. But right NOW, Biden is the candidate. What are you going to do? Stay home? Not vote because Biden isn’t “exciting”? Because he is the candidate right now. He is the ONLY one that can save our democracy. Him and every one of us that believes in America. Every person needs to rally behind him. Support him and give him our unwavering backing and vote for him regardless of political affiliation. Unless something changes, Biden is our only hope. If something does change, then that person deserves our 100% support. But this is where we are, like it or not.
The thing with Biden is the “Biden Administration”. He has a group of strong people in his administration who are mostly really good. Trump is not good, nor are the people he surrounds himself with. It is obvious that they are self serving and not thinking “Country First”
While Biden may or may not have some age/competency concerns, it is his whole administration that gives me confidence in voting for Biden/Harris
Exactly!! The Biden Administration has been killing it. Seriously! They are so under appreciated with what has been accomplished. Yeah, Joe may walk a little slower, but he continues to do a great job for the people of this country because….wait for it…he CARES! No reason to believe that will stop.
I thought thr republicans were Conservative( that’s changed).
I thought they were the moral party( that’s changed).
I thought they were independent thinkers( as in think for yourself in every situation) that’s changed.
I have never seen more leaders of state be more corrupt( this has increased).
I have never seen more leaders possess hot and cold water 💦 at the same time.(How hard is it to tell the truth, early on, again yesterday, again today and again tomarrow?
many people urge the President to step back, but I’ve not seen any convincing argument as to how the fractious Dems — at this point — can “swap horses while crossing the river.” ongoing argument seems to confirm. in a perfect world, the question would have decided in 2021.
Came across your comment again 08/15. You sure called that right. In another comment you said (paraphrasing) that most people are not plugged in to details bc they’re busy. When I read that back when you first posted it, that resonated and changed my mind for Biden to step back. Cheers 🥂
I’m not so sure there is enough time for a new candidate, even if that is Harris.
You have to work with what you’ve got and I would vote for Biden if he was comatose.
America needs to be like France. They KNOW what it’s like to live under authoritarianism. they turned out in droves to vote and kicked that far right party to the curb. They still got votes, but nothing like predicted.
America doesn’t have that experience but I am truly afraid we’re going to find out.
Linda, you are probably right about time being against Dems making a move. Perhaps, another candidate might provide a boost of energy but it also comes with serious consequences. First there is no guarantee that this person would beat Trump. So that’s risky in itself. But replacing Biden would also provide credence to Trump’s “Sleepy Joe” rhetoric that he has been going on about for years providing with a boost that he was right all along. Even though he’s full of crap, the media will paint Trump as some astute political mind and give him another win. Obviously, a move would put the Democratic Party into disarray and validating a lack of cohesion. Harris would be the person most likely to step up. I think she would make a fine president and should motivate women and minorities but unfortunately we live in a society that still is sexist and racist and there are people who won’t vote for Harris because of that. After, Hillary, being a white woman couldn’t beat Trump when Biden a white male could. You do the math.
Seek out Bulwark : Sarah Longwell and listen to what her focus groups say about Harris and how many feel( it’s not what u would think?( but worth a thought)
Ok so who would you have step in at this point? It’s fine to say what you did but you just presented a problem but no solution. What is your solution that is based in reality at this point? Just asking-for a friend.
I would like to see a new ticket like Whitmer paired with Bashear or Shapiro but I think the more obvious choice is Harris at the top with a Shapiro or Bashear as VP. Harris can bridge the current administration with a new one. A ticket like this would bring together ALL elements of the Democratic coalition and be truly inclusive and diverse.
I believe that people are inherently good and will know that Biden is the right person to vote for. Martin Luther King Jr’s quote brings me solace at these times: The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.
I agree with you, Richard, except for saying that Biden must win. I’d change that to whoever the Democratic candidate is. My take on what’s happening within the Democratic Party is that it’s similar to a large, caring family wrestling with the question of whether it’s time to take grandpa’s keys. He may have been a famous race car driver, but now he’s had a few fender benders, and gotten lost while driving a familiar route. There are those family members who are convinced that grandpa should give up driving, and those family members who believe he’ll know when it’s time to quit driving. We don’t know which group will prevail, and the only thing that is guaranteed is that whatever happens, one group will have the “I told you so.” rights. I believe everyone here will vote for whoever is the candidate for the Democrats.
I am also more worried that should trump win in November there will be no reason to speculate on a 2028 election, because there won’t be anything even resembling the electoral process we hold dear in 2028.
Well I say Biden must win because, in this moment, he IS the democratic nominee. But I agree with you that if things were to change, then the democratic nominee, whoever it is, must win. I know Biden is old. He stutters, he walks slow. But I believe his mind is sound and he is better now at this age than Trump has ever been at any point in his life. If Biden doesn’t drop out, here’s hoping he wins. We will be in sound hands for the next four years. But I completely agree with you that if Trump wins, we will never have fair and free elections again.
If you haven’t already done so, become as active as you can getting out Democratic votes in swing states for Biden or whoever is at the top of the ticket and vote every choice blue. This ain’t over folks.
Honestly, I hope you are wrong and American voters will repudiate this disgusting presidential ticket. I’m from Ohio, have seen up close how little Vance cares about his constituents. He very barely eked out a victory here in his senatorial race, even with a billionaire pumping money 💰 into his campaign.
I do agree with you that he’s a boot licking menace.
Great article about his repugnance from the Cleveland Scene during his senate race.
Since Vance’s wife’s parents are immigrants I have to wonder how she and her family feel about his about face. Or maybe because they aren’t from Central or South America they aren’t “those kind” of immigrants so it doesn’t apply. I’d love to be a fly on the wall to hear how that conversation went…
I’m surprised that the orange man-baby didn’t question where she was born like he kept accusing Obama of. Remember that? I’m guessing he demanded to see her birth certificate whilst deciding who to pick first his VP.
I am praying that The Trump cult clan doesn’t prevail!We need someone in the White House that will stand up for our democracy!Haley and Vance are TRUMPIES puppets and will do and say what he wants them to say!They have sold their souls to this him and the crazy TRUMPIE cult!
Really disappointed in Nikki. She raised millions from donors who believed her heartfelt positions against Donald and for American principles of democracy and law. Then she shat on all of them. She was a raisin. Now she's a turd.
I agree with your analysis and am disappointed that Haley has (at least on the surface) turned her back on classical GOP policy standards by supporting Trump. However, it is worth considering that Nikki Haley as part of the Trump administration may keep some level of sanity in his foreign policy. Sure, she'll have to metaphorically (at least I hope just metaphorically) lick his boots to be in his administration. But I have hopes that she will argue that it is a BAD idea to allow Russia to keep its gains in Ukraine, and to force a settlement between the two warring countries by withholding material and intelligence support from Ukraine. This is a hope (just one of my hopes) -- and yet fate has favored disabusing all of our shared hopes regarding Trump returning to the Oval Office.
My greatest fear with Vance is that he may do what Pence refused: Cause a Constitutional crisis on January 6, 2028, if he refuses to count the certified electoral votes presented to him by the States. The Constitution is clear. The traitor John Eastman was so egregious in his misrepresentation of it and his actions against it that he has been recommended for disbarment. But getting other people to take the fall for illegal and unconstitutional behavior is one of Donald Trump's superpowers.
A pledge to violate the Constitution, and the appointee's oath to protect the Constitution, in furtherance of Donald's orders, must be a prerequisite for VP consideration. Or for any cabinet appointment. Loyalty to the Leader above all!
Unfortunately given the recent SCOTUS ruling any unconstitutional behavior has to be dealt with by impeachment, and GOP cowardice in confronting Trump with his wrongdoing is now well established.
Also, I believe many conservatives now adopt the following idea: "It's us versus them."
And so the end justifies the means, Constitution and peace be damned.
If war and violence -- then war and violence.
It's a mistake they may (God forbid) someday regret, just like some Germans who supported Hitler regretted their part after the destruction of WWII. Or perhaps some Confederates may have felt after the Civil War ended.
Mr. Kinzinger, I disagree that Trump will win. There is still time to make sure all voters know who he is and what his presidency would mean to our democracy. I know you have to report facts (Trump leads in the polls) but let's try not to discourage those who must stand against him. I still believe we will defeat him at the polls. But then we will have to withstand his violence and legal maneuvering they have pledged to initiate when he loses. That will be the real test of who we are as a nation.
Never lick the hand. Americans are not dogs. Ask a Ukrainian. Russia stacked 200,000 troops at the border and mobilized 750,000 towards Ukraine. The people said NO. That’s what freedom lovers do. Why are Republican dogs looking to surrender at a much lesser threat?
I see putin’s degenerate army of prisoners and desperados let loose on Ukraine to continue their raping, torturing and murdering, still ignored by MSM. Carrying out US Comrade Putin’s genocide with the approbation of snotty ignorant American isolationists.
I read Hillbilly Elegy before Vance ran for office. His family and much of the community he depicted relied on government entitlements because of widespread domestic violence, substance abuse, and poverty. Despite this, he is an elitist married to an Indian-American, the daughter of immigrants. Now he's full MAGA. This is a hallmark of conservatives in general, MAGAs in particular. They embody ideals that are against their own histories, and by extension against the interests of most Americans' personal journeys. Is this a manifestation of deep seated self-loathing?
I am voting 💙 no matter who is running on the democratic ticket. I had wished that Biden did not run as I think he did a great job but it’s time to pass the torch. However, he is running and here we are. The democrats should have had this conversation last year, but they didn’t. As my mom would say, “shit or get off the pot”. In other words, the democrats need to make it clear that they will lose with Biden or coalesce behind him, 100%. Period. This is getting ridiculous. As to Vance, I agree that he is a pure MAGA pick and would love to think that enough Americans would vote against this ticket and save democracy. I am appalled that we are in this position again. However, looking at the polling, I am afraid, very afraid. Biden already was losing, perhaps within the margin of error, but losing predominantly due to age. Do I think he could have pulled it off? Yes. However, IMO, the debate change that calculous and as I said, I am very afraid. With Trump being 78, we have a good chance that he won’t make the 4 years and Vance becomes president…horrific, IMO.
Adam, great insight on Vance and your Stephen Colbert appearance!
As a child would say, the trump GOP are "sick-elephants"! The DNC needs to keep running ads that show what negative things Haley and Vance have said about trump(maybe call it "negative Ad-vance campaign"😉??)! Those and your great new Country First ad will hopefully turn some barely-trump voters and undecideds. Also, Vance will turn off many women and younger voters with his abortion policies.
I feel if trump is elected, he will make sure he's clear of all criminal charges and then off to cheat on the golf course. The presidential reins will be turned over to Vance and we will never see another election. However, I still have faith in the silent voters and we'll see Adam on the 2028 ticket and Ukraine will finally be free of Russia!
The fear I have for the direction of the Republican Party truly makes me ill. I have to take stretch breaks from news and social media to avoid the rabbit hole of feeling we are doomed if he gets in office. I have never committed to a party and have always voted based off value. This year will be a strait ticket, and it won’t be Republican as they all are towing his line 😢
We've had some talk on the C1st FB page that DJT choosing Vance for VP will most likely not win over any undecided voters. If the chosen candidate would have been Tim Scott or Glenn Younkin, people might have flocked in that direction. But the fact that Vance is so controversial, we can still have hope that the Democrats can come out stronger and build enough excitement about the future to defeat DJT at the polls. I still don't feel that yet though. I'll still continue to support Joe, but I must be honest and say that a ticket such as Harris/Shapiro seems like it would provide that burst of much needed energy -- and inspire the apathetic voters (of which there are a significant number) to show up at the polls in November... since they would have a sense of hope for the future.
"Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it!" US Citizens, please read about Germany in the thirties. Its today's playbook!!!!
Yep, you said that right.
Adam, I’m disappointed that you are projecting a Trump win as a foregone conclusion. Democracy and freedom is the cornerstone of our country and we cannot roll over to a fascist authoritarian regime without a fight. You speak of 2028 elections with a fight between Vance and Haley. I think that’s optimistic. How do we know that we will ever have a free and fair election ever again? How do we know that Trump won’t decide to tear up the constitution, because frankly it doesn’t really work for him (too many rules that constrain him) and declare that he’ll run for a third term? King Trump. He’ll have a Supreme Court in his back pocket and justice system to do his dirty work. 2028 elections? The only way to ensure a continuation of America is to ensure a Biden win. Only Biden can provide a bridge to a continuation of our democracy and then, only then, can we have constructive political dialogue on policies and helping Americans. We CANNOT lay over and think this election is over! We can’t!!
I'm a Democrat and I'm getting a little tired of listening to how Biden is the only one who can save democracy. To fight, you need energy and conviction. You need a leader who inspires. Biden inspires less than 50% of Democrats and around 35% of the country. Hardly a ringing endorsement.
It's time for a new candidate! The faster we get a more vibrant candidate (Kamala being obvious) the better we all will be. It's time for Democrats to shake things up and fight ourselves if we really think it's important!
Debra, personally I don’t care who the democratic candidate is as long as that person will defeat Trump. Whatever political issues that person stands for is secondary to making sure Trump loses. I would vote for a dead raccoon lying in the middle of the road having been run over a dozen times before voting for Trump. I’m not kidding. Even then that dead raccoon would be a better choice than Trump. But right NOW, Biden is the candidate. What are you going to do? Stay home? Not vote because Biden isn’t “exciting”? Because he is the candidate right now. He is the ONLY one that can save our democracy. Him and every one of us that believes in America. Every person needs to rally behind him. Support him and give him our unwavering backing and vote for him regardless of political affiliation. Unless something changes, Biden is our only hope. If something does change, then that person deserves our 100% support. But this is where we are, like it or not.
The thing with Biden is the “Biden Administration”. He has a group of strong people in his administration who are mostly really good. Trump is not good, nor are the people he surrounds himself with. It is obvious that they are self serving and not thinking “Country First”
While Biden may or may not have some age/competency concerns, it is his whole administration that gives me confidence in voting for Biden/Harris
Exactly!! The Biden Administration has been killing it. Seriously! They are so under appreciated with what has been accomplished. Yeah, Joe may walk a little slower, but he continues to do a great job for the people of this country because….wait for it…he CARES! No reason to believe that will stop.
While I agree, his administration is not running for President. You are obviously a thoughtful voter. Most voters don't have the time to dog deep.
I was a Republican until thr last few yrs.
I thought thr republicans were Conservative( that’s changed).
I thought they were the moral party( that’s changed).
I thought they were independent thinkers( as in think for yourself in every situation) that’s changed.
I have never seen more leaders of state be more corrupt( this has increased).
I have never seen more leaders possess hot and cold water 💦 at the same time.(How hard is it to tell the truth, early on, again yesterday, again today and again tomarrow?
I believe in you sir !Adam stay the course.
many people urge the President to step back, but I’ve not seen any convincing argument as to how the fractious Dems — at this point — can “swap horses while crossing the river.” ongoing argument seems to confirm. in a perfect world, the question would have decided in 2021.
Came across your comment again 08/15. You sure called that right. In another comment you said (paraphrasing) that most people are not plugged in to details bc they’re busy. When I read that back when you first posted it, that resonated and changed my mind for Biden to step back. Cheers 🥂
I’m not so sure there is enough time for a new candidate, even if that is Harris.
You have to work with what you’ve got and I would vote for Biden if he was comatose.
America needs to be like France. They KNOW what it’s like to live under authoritarianism. they turned out in droves to vote and kicked that far right party to the curb. They still got votes, but nothing like predicted.
America doesn’t have that experience but I am truly afraid we’re going to find out.
Linda, you are probably right about time being against Dems making a move. Perhaps, another candidate might provide a boost of energy but it also comes with serious consequences. First there is no guarantee that this person would beat Trump. So that’s risky in itself. But replacing Biden would also provide credence to Trump’s “Sleepy Joe” rhetoric that he has been going on about for years providing with a boost that he was right all along. Even though he’s full of crap, the media will paint Trump as some astute political mind and give him another win. Obviously, a move would put the Democratic Party into disarray and validating a lack of cohesion. Harris would be the person most likely to step up. I think she would make a fine president and should motivate women and minorities but unfortunately we live in a society that still is sexist and racist and there are people who won’t vote for Harris because of that. After, Hillary, being a white woman couldn’t beat Trump when Biden a white male could. You do the math.
Seek out Bulwark : Sarah Longwell and listen to what her focus groups say about Harris and how many feel( it’s not what u would think?( but worth a thought)
Ok so who would you have step in at this point? It’s fine to say what you did but you just presented a problem but no solution. What is your solution that is based in reality at this point? Just asking-for a friend.
I would like to see a new ticket like Whitmer paired with Bashear or Shapiro but I think the more obvious choice is Harris at the top with a Shapiro or Bashear as VP. Harris can bridge the current administration with a new one. A ticket like this would bring together ALL elements of the Democratic coalition and be truly inclusive and diverse.
I’m clinging to hope and my faith in the American people.
I believe that people are inherently good and will know that Biden is the right person to vote for. Martin Luther King Jr’s quote brings me solace at these times: The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.
I agree with you, Richard, except for saying that Biden must win. I’d change that to whoever the Democratic candidate is. My take on what’s happening within the Democratic Party is that it’s similar to a large, caring family wrestling with the question of whether it’s time to take grandpa’s keys. He may have been a famous race car driver, but now he’s had a few fender benders, and gotten lost while driving a familiar route. There are those family members who are convinced that grandpa should give up driving, and those family members who believe he’ll know when it’s time to quit driving. We don’t know which group will prevail, and the only thing that is guaranteed is that whatever happens, one group will have the “I told you so.” rights. I believe everyone here will vote for whoever is the candidate for the Democrats.
I am also more worried that should trump win in November there will be no reason to speculate on a 2028 election, because there won’t be anything even resembling the electoral process we hold dear in 2028.
Well I say Biden must win because, in this moment, he IS the democratic nominee. But I agree with you that if things were to change, then the democratic nominee, whoever it is, must win. I know Biden is old. He stutters, he walks slow. But I believe his mind is sound and he is better now at this age than Trump has ever been at any point in his life. If Biden doesn’t drop out, here’s hoping he wins. We will be in sound hands for the next four years. But I completely agree with you that if Trump wins, we will never have fair and free elections again.
If you haven’t already done so, become as active as you can getting out Democratic votes in swing states for Biden or whoever is at the top of the ticket and vote every choice blue. This ain’t over folks.
Honestly, I hope you are wrong and American voters will repudiate this disgusting presidential ticket. I’m from Ohio, have seen up close how little Vance cares about his constituents. He very barely eked out a victory here in his senatorial race, even with a billionaire pumping money 💰 into his campaign.
I do agree with you that he’s a boot licking menace.
Great article about his repugnance from the Cleveland Scene during his senate race.
https://www.clevescene.com/news/the-breathtaking-emptiness-of-jd-vance-40568994
A well-written article. Thank you for the link!
“To see J.D. Vance is to see a rank opportunist who knows where his bread is buttered.”
That’s a hell of a line, Adam, and I THANK YOU for it, and for PLAIN SPEAKING.
THANK YOU‼️
Since Vance’s wife’s parents are immigrants I have to wonder how she and her family feel about his about face. Or maybe because they aren’t from Central or South America they aren’t “those kind” of immigrants so it doesn’t apply. I’d love to be a fly on the wall to hear how that conversation went…
I’m surprised that the orange man-baby didn’t question where she was born like he kept accusing Obama of. Remember that? I’m guessing he demanded to see her birth certificate whilst deciding who to pick first his VP.
Good point! Interesting that both Repub. candidates have immigrants for wives!
I am praying that The Trump cult clan doesn’t prevail!We need someone in the White House that will stand up for our democracy!Haley and Vance are TRUMPIES puppets and will do and say what he wants them to say!They have sold their souls to this him and the crazy TRUMPIE cult!
Really disappointed in Nikki. She raised millions from donors who believed her heartfelt positions against Donald and for American principles of democracy and law. Then she shat on all of them. She was a raisin. Now she's a turd.
I agree with your analysis and am disappointed that Haley has (at least on the surface) turned her back on classical GOP policy standards by supporting Trump. However, it is worth considering that Nikki Haley as part of the Trump administration may keep some level of sanity in his foreign policy. Sure, she'll have to metaphorically (at least I hope just metaphorically) lick his boots to be in his administration. But I have hopes that she will argue that it is a BAD idea to allow Russia to keep its gains in Ukraine, and to force a settlement between the two warring countries by withholding material and intelligence support from Ukraine. This is a hope (just one of my hopes) -- and yet fate has favored disabusing all of our shared hopes regarding Trump returning to the Oval Office.
My greatest fear with Vance is that he may do what Pence refused: Cause a Constitutional crisis on January 6, 2028, if he refuses to count the certified electoral votes presented to him by the States. The Constitution is clear. The traitor John Eastman was so egregious in his misrepresentation of it and his actions against it that he has been recommended for disbarment. But getting other people to take the fall for illegal and unconstitutional behavior is one of Donald Trump's superpowers.
A pledge to violate the Constitution, and the appointee's oath to protect the Constitution, in furtherance of Donald's orders, must be a prerequisite for VP consideration. Or for any cabinet appointment. Loyalty to the Leader above all!
Unfortunately given the recent SCOTUS ruling any unconstitutional behavior has to be dealt with by impeachment, and GOP cowardice in confronting Trump with his wrongdoing is now well established.
Also, I believe many conservatives now adopt the following idea: "It's us versus them."
And so the end justifies the means, Constitution and peace be damned.
If war and violence -- then war and violence.
It's a mistake they may (God forbid) someday regret, just like some Germans who supported Hitler regretted their part after the destruction of WWII. Or perhaps some Confederates may have felt after the Civil War ended.
Also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-judge-dead-natalia-larina-falls-window-1909104
I suspect Judge Cannon won't meet such an end.
For now. Carrot and stick. How do you think Putin and Kim keep power over their courts?
Skip I too suspect Haley is hoping to moderate the loonies.
Mr. Kinzinger, I disagree that Trump will win. There is still time to make sure all voters know who he is and what his presidency would mean to our democracy. I know you have to report facts (Trump leads in the polls) but let's try not to discourage those who must stand against him. I still believe we will defeat him at the polls. But then we will have to withstand his violence and legal maneuvering they have pledged to initiate when he loses. That will be the real test of who we are as a nation.
Never lick the hand. Americans are not dogs. Ask a Ukrainian. Russia stacked 200,000 troops at the border and mobilized 750,000 towards Ukraine. The people said NO. That’s what freedom lovers do. Why are Republican dogs looking to surrender at a much lesser threat?
Because they don’t have the backbone, courage and integrity of the Ukrainian people.
I see putin’s degenerate army of prisoners and desperados let loose on Ukraine to continue their raping, torturing and murdering, still ignored by MSM. Carrying out US Comrade Putin’s genocide with the approbation of snotty ignorant American isolationists.
I read Hillbilly Elegy before Vance ran for office. His family and much of the community he depicted relied on government entitlements because of widespread domestic violence, substance abuse, and poverty. Despite this, he is an elitist married to an Indian-American, the daughter of immigrants. Now he's full MAGA. This is a hallmark of conservatives in general, MAGAs in particular. They embody ideals that are against their own histories, and by extension against the interests of most Americans' personal journeys. Is this a manifestation of deep seated self-loathing?
I am voting 💙 no matter who is running on the democratic ticket. I had wished that Biden did not run as I think he did a great job but it’s time to pass the torch. However, he is running and here we are. The democrats should have had this conversation last year, but they didn’t. As my mom would say, “shit or get off the pot”. In other words, the democrats need to make it clear that they will lose with Biden or coalesce behind him, 100%. Period. This is getting ridiculous. As to Vance, I agree that he is a pure MAGA pick and would love to think that enough Americans would vote against this ticket and save democracy. I am appalled that we are in this position again. However, looking at the polling, I am afraid, very afraid. Biden already was losing, perhaps within the margin of error, but losing predominantly due to age. Do I think he could have pulled it off? Yes. However, IMO, the debate change that calculous and as I said, I am very afraid. With Trump being 78, we have a good chance that he won’t make the 4 years and Vance becomes president…horrific, IMO.
Adam, great insight on Vance and your Stephen Colbert appearance!
As a child would say, the trump GOP are "sick-elephants"! The DNC needs to keep running ads that show what negative things Haley and Vance have said about trump(maybe call it "negative Ad-vance campaign"😉??)! Those and your great new Country First ad will hopefully turn some barely-trump voters and undecideds. Also, Vance will turn off many women and younger voters with his abortion policies.
I feel if trump is elected, he will make sure he's clear of all criminal charges and then off to cheat on the golf course. The presidential reins will be turned over to Vance and we will never see another election. However, I still have faith in the silent voters and we'll see Adam on the 2028 ticket and Ukraine will finally be free of Russia!
Well, it would rid us of a horrible Senator. Not that Ohio would necessarily pick a better replacement. 🤔 Where's Tim Ryan now?
The fear I have for the direction of the Republican Party truly makes me ill. I have to take stretch breaks from news and social media to avoid the rabbit hole of feeling we are doomed if he gets in office. I have never committed to a party and have always voted based off value. This year will be a strait ticket, and it won’t be Republican as they all are towing his line 😢
I'm glad to hear that you are continuing your tradition of voting based off value!
We've had some talk on the C1st FB page that DJT choosing Vance for VP will most likely not win over any undecided voters. If the chosen candidate would have been Tim Scott or Glenn Younkin, people might have flocked in that direction. But the fact that Vance is so controversial, we can still have hope that the Democrats can come out stronger and build enough excitement about the future to defeat DJT at the polls. I still don't feel that yet though. I'll still continue to support Joe, but I must be honest and say that a ticket such as Harris/Shapiro seems like it would provide that burst of much needed energy -- and inspire the apathetic voters (of which there are a significant number) to show up at the polls in November... since they would have a sense of hope for the future.